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Chris Sherbak
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Did I step in it on purpose???

So after a semi-rant of my own in hekatatia's journal comment area (wherein she had originally semi-ranted a bit about, shock! horror! amazement!, ADF's organizational disfunction) I now find myself subscribed to a number of l33t ADF lists (COL, SD, LEADERSHIP) that I should have been on last September. Now, I suppose I could have made a stink at the time, but (frankly) I hadn't even really thought about it. The lack of admittance hadn't even really struck me until I was formulating my response to (imagined) questioners about my lack of activity on the ADF Scholar's list where I was (and am still?) the Guild Chief.

Now, given I have some of my own ideas (still percolating) about that position and that Guild, I was somewhat worried that I'd be taken to task by The Leadership (or The MG or The Clergy) about this. To my gleeful humor (and mordant surprise) no one even mentioned it to me. Ah well. That's My ADF. I can still percolate I guess. Go me! (And a hearty Thank You to Whoever Gods made this happen.)

I suppose I now have to actually give it The Old College Try and Do Something. Bother.

To whit:

1) Why is it that the only 1st rank Scholars are the 3 people who are actually on the Clergy Track? Kinda makes you wonder if Scholar is even a valid (i.e. unique) path within ADF don't it?

2) Why haven't the further ranks been codified? I'll grant there's likely been >>some<< discussion but I suspect the challenge of providing for Brehons/Lawspeakers & Linguists & Philosophers & Cultural Anthropologists & Theologians in one program is quite daunting. (I still need to review the whole 5+/whatever years of SCHOLARS history to be sure exactly how much of that has been articulated tho)

3) Why hasn't anyone actually called/emailed me or even ranted-on-LJ/complained-in-list about me basically ducking the whole thing? Am I so very terrifying? (evil chuckle)

(As they said on "SOAP") "For these an other burning questions, tune in next time ... "

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Well, of course, the Scholars Guild had been made inactive in the late 90s. It was re-started in (IIRC) 2001 as part of a power play on the part of the torpedo-Skip faction, frankly, to get someone onto the COL by letting him (essentially) declare himself a Guild Chief (with the support of Rob as Preceptor and Gwynne as Guildmaster). It was most emphatically NOT re-started in response to anything more than personal ambition (and related agendas) on the part of three individuals who (hey, just call me "Blackie the Pot" here, I guess) are not in membership anymore. Various individuals with more integrity and legitimate scholarly involvement (notably Jeremy) have gravitated to its actual potential since then, but I have to say that the Guild training program for the SG that was cobbled together in 01-02 primarily by aforementioned Guild Chief was pretty much a worthless P.O.S. (IMO) that did nothing to educate and was designed principally to confer status on people based on things they'd already done (IMNSHO). Since the SG in its post-2000 incarnation didn't initially arise from any particular demand among the membership, it doesn't surprise me if no one's paying much attention to the status of its training systems. (The above played out during my 2001-02 tenure as ADF Administrator, so I'd stand by the account if challenged, btw.)

Wow...My F/L is just dumping some of my biggest old pet peeves right in my lap today! What's up with that?

Altho I don't recall all that history (I was asleep during much of it letting da Jacksta take the lead during one of my arms-length-distancing efforts towards ADF), you should know that when Deb started up The New Study Program, she asked if I'd be willing to take up the Scholars mantle (mostly from my then-interest in Brehon/Lawspeaker stuff via Roman Law) so one could argue that I'm merely picking up where I left off long ago. She was mostly interested in having a home for some of the "orphan" classes of the Study Program, and I (somewhat half-heartedly) agreed.

Moving forward to today's world, I wonder if a "Scholars Guild" even fits with the current conception in ADF, but as I mention, I'm still percolating the results of those cogitations. Inasmuch as I'm willing to go to bat for offbeat ideas, I do want to make sure whatever radical (likely in some people's minds) suggestions I may propose have a germ of reasonability and sanity. Granted the latter might not be a selling point in ADF these days, but one can hope, eh?

Thanks for reading and commenting... it's much appreciated.

No one ever announced to the COL or the webmaster that the guild has a chief; you should be on the COL list (with a vote) and making quarterly reports.

I've been waiting for someone to take the initiative with the guild; I decided a couple years ago that I was not the person to lead the guild, but I will support whoever does. You do know that you have a "council of wisdom" to call upon, right? I was just checking, and Aethon never added you to the yahoo group for those... and there are people on that list who aren't even ADF members anymore. I'll see what I can do about that today.

1) Why is it that the only 1st rank Scholars are the 3 people who are actually on the Clergy Track? Kinda makes you wonder if Scholar is even a valid (i.e. unique) path within ADF don't it?

There are three? I think it's just me and Kirk. I'm not sure why others aren't pursuing it, but I have some ideas on drumming up some interest -- if it's to be had at all.

2) Why haven't the further ranks been codified?
Who would do this? Brian? I guess you'd have to ask him (or anyone) why he hasn't taken the initiative in generating ideas and discussion.

3) Why hasn't anyone actually called/emailed me or even ranted-on-LJ/complained-in-list about me basically ducking the whole thing? Am I so very terrifying? (evil chuckle)

Um... okay. So drubear, why don't you get off your butt and do something?! Solicit ideas for further study; find out what people's interests are; encourage scholars to do some workshops and write some articles -- the next issue of OL has a JULY 1 DEADLINE and is dedicated to SCHOLARSHIP. I'm working on an article about comparative mythology, and I believe Kirk is working on one about healing wells. Let's drum up some more!

Seriously, I'm home this weekend, mostly packing and waiting. Let's get on the phone and chat, shall we?

As to 1), you're right, only 2 have handed in the mission statement. Me bad.